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Journal Entry: Sat Dec 29, 2007, 3:37 AM
The homosexuality debate within Christianity. There should be no debate. It's really very simple. "Not easy," as Reagan put it, "but simple."

Homosexuality is a sin. Period. And Jesus died to forgive it, period. And like all sins, it must be forsaken by those who have practiced it, period. It is not an excuse to abuse someone. And we do not need to tolerate this sin in order to love the sinners. Jesus ate with the tax collectors, but did He approve of their greed? No, He didn't. And when we start to approve of a sinner's sins in the name of loving that sinner, we have stopped acting like Christ entirely. Jesus didn't tolerate or approve of greed or fornication or any of the other sins committed by the "sinners" He ate with. He would have ceased to be God if He did that. Satan would have won before Jesus even got to the cross. Jesus loved those sinners IN SPITE of their sins. And that is something Christians these days, including myself, need to master. Instead, we use the human coping mechanisms of tolerance and approval, or simply not even trying to love those who have strayed.

"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." - Romans 5:8

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  • Current Residence: USA
  • Interests: Jesus, politics, computers.
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*BlackInfinity666:iconBlackInfinity666: Apr 24, 2008, 7:13:49 PM
thx for visiting!!

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 6, 2008, 6:39:14 AM
Right, that's cancer. Cells also mutate - sometimes for the worse, causing defects and genetic anomalities that end up being harmful. But they also mutate for completely benign reasons, and for good results - adaptation and evolution. If humans really were perfect, then cells would never change - and we'd all look the same. But no. We have Asians, Africans, Native Americans, Caucasians... thanks to evolution.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 5, 2008, 9:39:45 PM
Wher did these cells come from, ad how did they know how much and of what to reproduce? It is not true cells can control how much they grow? When they can't, that's cancer, right?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 5, 2008, 8:04:46 PM
It's simple. Single-celled organisms reproduced. Reproduction happens at every level. It doesn't require a penis and a vagina. There's spores and asexual reproduction. There's all kinds of reproduction - the reproduction between humans and some species is just one kind.

God speeded up the preparation of these things? Uh... nope. He created everything in 6 days, according to the Bible. Poof. Like that. No watching them quickly change. Again, the Bible is flawed. The Bible showed women as second-class citizens and condoned slavery. Both things are illegal today, because we see that these things are wrong, and have rejected the old ideals of what was acceptable. Therefore, the Bible is outdated and not meant to be taken literally, for that reason among many others.

Intelligent Design, my ass. If we really were the products of ID, then we would be better off physically. The universe would also be better arranged. Ever wonder why the year is 365.24 days, rather than a nice even 365, or 7 x 7 x 7 (since that's supposed to be God's holy number) = 343 days (7 days in a week, 7 weeks in a month, 7 months in a year, and so on and so forth), and the Moon also has a rotation that is NOT 28 days/4 weeks like many people usually think. The Universe is nothing but a mishmash of random numbers, and everything points away from a neat, ordered design. If God really did create the universe and everything within it, then man, he missed a LOT and screwed up a LOT. Not so intelligent.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 5, 2008, 6:51:02 PM
He wasn't bashing gays. There's a difference between disliking the person and the act. Also, seeing ow many people choose to go around and flame others, you should appreciate that he kept it on his journal. There will be people in the world you disagree with. Bashing their beleifs will get you nowhere.

Have you ever considered God speeded the preparatio of these things?

If you actually read the Bible, you'd know why we are flawed.

How is it that creatures survived long enough to evolve to the state they are in? Did they strt with reproductive organs or did the gain them? How did they kee their species alive till then? If they started with them, isn't it odd that creatures began with pieces that showed an intelligent design?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 5, 2008, 6:29:06 PM
Like I said before, my comment to him was in response to him bashing gays in his journal. Gay-bashing is one thing I do not tolerate, especially when people use the Bible as a excuse.

I've already looked. Believe me, I have. That's why I believe so strongly in evolution. Transfer between ape and human? Try cavemen! Honestly, if the world really was only 6000 years old like the Bible said, then Pangaea, dinosaurs, and cavemen would never exist - as well as coal, diamonds, and oil as these things takes millions of years to develop.

If God really created Man in his image, then why are we so flawed? I don't mean morally, I mean physically. Take the appendix for example. It's a useless organ, something we've evolved to not need. Yet, it's there within us, something that serves no function. In the future, it will grow smaller until we have mo more appendixes altogether. People say OMG the human body is a miracle! Yes, the human body IS complex... but in no way perfect. Evolution does provide for adaptation, though it doesn't mean perfection. That's why there are so many genetic defects within humans, as well as our bodies generally not being as good as they could be.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 5, 2008, 5:53:35 PM
Then what was the point of your comment to this person on ther front page?

If yoyu beleive evolution has been proven, you are mistaken. Any evidence of creatures in mid transfer between ape and human has been found as false or a hoax. I'm not interested in going in circles with this honestly. I've said all I can here. It's up to God to call you a help you see through the lies and majority attitude you're taking. I'd cuggest talking to some scientists about what we really know on these subjects you claim to be proof, but you've already shown you won't. If Yo're right, why are you so afraid to actuall go looking?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 5, 2008, 1:28:13 AM
Flame? A flame is telling someone they deserve to die, that they're worthless, that their family/pets should die, making death threats against them, telling them that their work sucks with no apparent reason, etc. Believe me, I know. My ex boyfriend flamed me by telling me to kill myself, and threatened to kill my cat after I broke up with him. You need to know the definition of a word before actually using it, child. Did I ever say that I HATED JoeBob? No. I merely posted that link in response to him condemning homosexuality in his journal.

You seem to like taking my comments out of context. I had said that the Big Bang was merely a theory, one of few, and then you told me that I was acting as if the BB was fact when all I said was that evolution was fact. I NEVER stated that the BB was fact.

Evolution has been proven... 10000000x. Look at the examples I cited in my last statement - dinosaurs, mutation, adaptation, the diversity of species, etc etc. A real scientist would tell you that the Big Bang is a theory, but that evolution is fact.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 4, 2008, 9:58:46 PM
talk to a real scientist and ask if evolution has been proven. And you technically started the arguement by flaming a brother in Christ. Iusn't it hypocritical to call him hateful for hisx beleif when you hate him?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 4, 2008, 9:11:39 PM
You're the one who started this argument, not me. Creationism is not science. It is a myth. I never said that the Big Bang was fact. I merely said that the Big Bang was a respected theory, and one of several possible origins of the universe. The world is not 6000 years old, nor was it made in 6 days - there is overwhelming proof against that. If the world really was but 6000 years old, then cavemen and dinosaurs would have never existed.

Evolution is fact - biology proves that. The diversity of species, the knowledge of DNA and genomes, adaptation and mutation, the age of the world, all of that proves evolution. The mainstream scientific community may have several theories on the origin of the universe, or how dinosaurs became extinct, but there are no theories on evolution for the fact that it is fact.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 4, 2008, 6:04:59 PM
So do I. Hence I'm a creationist. I don't let gloated up theories be truth to me. During this whole conversation, you keep clamining athism is common sense, yet fail to provide any facts proving the big bang, evolution, etc.

Christianity is much more than just another religion. It's a relationship with God. If you wish to beleive otherwise, it's not me you're hurting. However, that is your choice and your right. Respect that this deviant has a different one than you and don't come flaming them with a bias article that is perposefully made to bash Christinaity by somebody who doesn't like it.

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 4, 2008, 5:55:13 PM
Creationism and the Bible are just stories. Every religion says that their stories are the true/right ones - you Christians aren't any more right than any other religion which claims that it is the one who holds the Truth.

I believe in science. Period.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 4, 2008, 5:41:28 PM
Because you don't believe in something, that means it isn't true?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 4, 2008, 7:30:22 AM
And more where God encourages Man to slaughter and kill his enemies and pillage and rape. I will never accept Jesus as my Savior, and I'm not afraid of Hell since I don't believe in it.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 3, 2008, 5:51:42 PM
The Bible doesn't talk against self defence. There are several stories of the Bible where God calls a man to war to defend his country.

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 3, 2008, 4:12:26 PM
The Creationist scientists are far and few in between. Creationism is not accepted by the mainstream scientific community - evolution is. There is overwhelming proof that the world is more than 6000 years old.

The Bible is no more or less valid than any other holy scriptures - the Torah, the Koran/Q'uran, the Bhagavad Gita. No one religion deserves dominion over another. And there are many religions which predate Christianty, all the way back to the earliest roots of man.

There is right and wrong, but there is also a gray area. If I pickpocketed you and blew the money on drugs, that would be bad. But if I stole some food to feed my starving baby, would that be as wrong as me stealing someone's hard-earned money for drugs? Also, generally, murder is wrong. One of the ten Commandments say 'Thou Shalt Not Kill' What if I was forced to kill someone who tried to rape me and planned to kill me after he was done? Some things are just wrong, period, but there is also a gray area, like I said, and some things have to be determined on a case by case basis.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 2, 2008, 6:36:46 PM
No, it's not a lie actually. There are plenty of creationist scientists. It's not just a religion. The structure of the universe has many attributes that hint at intelligent design.

Actually, the Dead Sea Scrolls prove that the Bible hasn't changed in thousands of years. That's pretty amazing, seeing how so many people would like to have changed it. It's almost like some spiritual entity was there making sure it didn't get messed with. Oh yeah, there was.

Do you believe in absolute truths? Things that are right and wrong? Of course you do. You've shown that wit your replies. However, if the word is a result of a random explosion, than morals and merely random in which case, nothing is right and wrong. Do you beleive this?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 2, 2008, 5:47:19 PM
Scientists supporting creationism? That's a lie. Creationism is a story in religion - it is not science, period. Yes - there have been hoaxes, remember the Asian guy who claimed to have cloned a human? Despite that fact, cloning is still a part of science.

Avoid contradicting eachother? Another lie. The Bible is outdated and contradicts good sense, period. It was not written by God - it was written by man, and carried around and translated and edited so many times that what you read today is most certainly not the original text, and the Christian Old Testament has differences in it from the Jewish, proving that things DO get lost in translation. The Bible is a book. That's all. Just a book. It is not a fact of life. Science is a fact of life, and so is the fact that there are many varying religions - there is no one right religion.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 2, 2008, 5:02:51 PM
Actually, plenty of scientists doubt darwin's theory, and many even support creationism. There is no "proof". There's a lot of theories, but no proof. Any supposed half human half ape bones have bee found to be something else or a hoax.

The Bible doesn't contradict it's self either. If you're trying to make it look like it does, God assures people that they will not find unless they seek, so you'll find all the false "proof" that something in the Bible is wrong tha you need, but if you really take a look at it, you'll notice tha not only do these tons of people not contradict eac other, but somehow the avoid not contradicting each other despite not knowing one another while writng the books. Isn't that interesting?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 2, 2008, 12:15:26 PM
One thing for sure - the world isn't 6000 years old as evidenced by the Bible.

Some things are just theories - we do not know for sure how the dinosaurs became extinct as there are several good theories about that. The creation of the universe? Again, several excellent theories surround this, and all are respectable and reasonable.

Evolution is a fact. Anyone with a degree in science knows that. Biology is a rich and complex science, and everything in it points to evolution - DNA, chromosomes, mutation, adaptation, etc.

The Bible was written in a time where women were second-class citizens, physical defects (birth defects) were seen as punishment for a parent's sins, anyone could be stoned to death for minor offenses, and everyone thought the world was flat and that the sun revolved around it. The Bible is outdated, written by many people who contradict one another and who wished to stick to the status quo, rather than strive to better the human race.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 1, 2008, 9:06:21 PM
Evolution is a overblown theory. Can out find a single piece of actual evidence that evolution is real within all those estimates ad theories?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 1, 2008, 8:51:43 PM
Disprove? There's a little thing called evolution which disproves the Bible. And that's just ONE of the many things that disproves that book.

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=Netbug009:iconNetbug009: Mar 1, 2008, 4:23:21 PM
Then why has nothing ever been able to disprove it?

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~Spleef:iconSpleef: Mar 1, 2008, 4:21:57 PM
Yes, I have. It's not hard to understand rape and murder. it's also not hard to understand that the Bible is outdated.

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